Packaging Corp. of America: Q3 FY2025 earnings call
What management said about Q3 FY2025, from the documents filed with the SEC on 23 October 2025: press release. Guidance figures: 2 new. The quarter’s numbers.
Key takeaways
- Third-quarter EPS $2.51 reported, $2.73 adjusted: Net income was $226.9 million, or $2.51 diluted EPS. Excluding special items, net income was $246.7 million, or $2.73 per share, against $2.65 a year earlier. Net sales were $2.3 billion. Source
- Packaging pricing and mix drove earnings: Excluding special items, the $0.08 year-on-year rise came from PCA earnings up $0.19. Higher Packaging prices and mix added $0.73 and lower fiber costs added $0.16, offset by higher operating costs of $0.33. Source
- Greif first month reduced earnings $0.11: The first month of Greif ownership reduced EPS by $0.11, including $0.09 of depreciation after purchase-accounting step-up. Mill outages and income timing cut earnings by a further $0.10 per share. Source
- Legacy shipments fell per day: Legacy PCA corrugated shipments were down 2.7% per day and 1.1% in total, with one additional workday. Including the acquired business, shipments were up 3.7% per day and 5.3% in total. Source
- Massillon shutdown extended to five weeks: The Massillon annual shutdown was extended to five weeks and included a full refurbishment, reliability work on both paper machines, the OCC facility and the power plant. It was completed in October. Source
- Fourth-quarter EPS guided to $2.40: Management expects fourth-quarter EPS of $2.40 excluding special items, reflecting the Massillon outage, seasonal volume and mix, and a full quarter of acquired operations. Source
- Massillon outage continues into October: The Massillon outage continued into October, bringing lower production and higher maintenance expense, along with seasonally lower corrugated volume and mix. Source
“We had a very strong quarter in the legacy PCA packaging business, with corrugated volume continuing to reflect cautious ordering patterns and improving throughout the quarter, with volume and price largely on plan.”
Mark W. Kowlzan, Chairman and CEO
Guidance
| Area | Period | Figure | Against last quarter |
|---|---|---|---|
| Diluted EPS excluding special items Source | fourth quarter 2025 | $2.40 per share | New |
| Maintenance outage expense Source | fourth quarter 2025 | approximately ($0.29) per share | New |
What changed from last quarter
- New guidance: Fourth-quarter EPS guidance of $2.40 excluding special items was given; the prior guidance covered the third quarter at $2.80. Source
- New: The Greif containerboard business acquisition was completed on September 2, 2025; the prior release described it as pending. Source
- New: The company now operates ten mills and 93 corrugated products plants, up from eight mills and 85 plants in the prior release. Source
Results and earnings drivers
- Third-quarter EPS $2.51 reported, $2.73 adjusted: Net income was $226.9 million, or $2.51 diluted EPS. Excluding special items, net income was $246.7 million, or $2.73 per share, against $2.65 a year earlier. Net sales were $2.3 billion. Source
- Packaging pricing and mix drove earnings: Excluding special items, the $0.08 year-on-year rise came from PCA earnings up $0.19. Higher Packaging prices and mix added $0.73 and lower fiber costs added $0.16, offset by higher operating costs of $0.33. Source
- Greif first month reduced earnings $0.11: The first month of Greif ownership reduced EPS by $0.11, including $0.09 of depreciation after purchase-accounting step-up. Mill outages and income timing cut earnings by a further $0.10 per share. Source
- Above $2.80 guidance before Greif: Excluding the Greif acquisition and special items, EPS was $0.04 above the $2.80 third-quarter guidance, mainly on Packaging price and mix and lower freight costs. Source
- Nine-month EPS $7.45 reported: Nine-month diluted EPS was $7.45 against $6.48 a year earlier; excluding special items it was $7.52 against $6.57. Nine-month net sales were $6,625.7 million against $6,237.2 million. Source
Segment results
- Packaging operating income rose: Packaging segment operating income excluding special items was $347.9 million against $321.6 million. Segment EBITDA excluding special items was $491.8 million against $445.6 million. Source
- Paper volume and earnings lower: Paper segment operating income was $35.6 million against $38.5 million. Paper sales volume was down 0.7% from a year earlier and up 10% from the second quarter. Source
- Corporate costs rose: The Corporate and Other operating loss was $38.6 million against $32.1 million. Excluding $5.9 million of acquisition and integration costs, the loss was $32.7 million. Source
“The Paper segment delivered another outstanding quarter on strong sales volume and operating performance at the International Falls mill.”
Mark W. Kowlzan, Chairman and CEO
Corrugated volumes and inventory
- Legacy shipments fell per day: Legacy PCA corrugated shipments were down 2.7% per day and 1.1% in total, with one additional workday. Including the acquired business, shipments were up 3.7% per day and 5.3% in total. Source
- Containerboard output at both mill groups: Containerboard production was 1,255,000 tons at the legacy PCA mills and 47,000 tons at the acquired mills. Source
- Legacy inventory above last year: Legacy containerboard inventory was 417,000 tons, up 56,000 tons from a year earlier and 15,000 tons from the second quarter. Management said the quarter ended at targeted levels. Source
- Acquired-mill inventory on hand: The newly acquired facilities held 86,000 tons of inventory at the end of the quarter. Source
Demand and export volumes
- Cautious ordering persisted: Management described corrugated ordering as cautious through the quarter, with volume improving as the quarter went on and largely on plan. Source
- Export sales expected to rise: Export containerboard sales are expected to exceed third-quarter levels but remain low against traditional fourth-quarter volume. Source
- Paper volume expected lower: Paper production and sales volumes are expected below the seasonally stronger third quarter, with flat pricing. Source
“We expect significant improvement in the results of operations of the acquired business.”
Mark W. Kowlzan, Chairman and CEO
Costs, pricing and freight
- Higher operating costs offset gains: Higher operating costs reduced earnings by $0.33 per share, lower Packaging volume by $0.16, and higher depreciation and freight by $0.07 each. Source
- Packaging prices expected lower: Packaging prices are expected to be lower in the fourth quarter because of a seasonally less rich mix. Source
- Fiber and energy costs expected higher: Management expects seasonally higher energy and fiber costs in the fourth quarter, with freight and other operating costs roughly flat. Source
Greif integration and mill work
- Greif closing costs $25.0 million: Acquisition and integration charges for Greif were $25.0 million in the quarter and $26.6 million for the nine months, recorded in cost of sales and other expense. Source
- Massillon shutdown extended to five weeks: The Massillon annual shutdown was extended to five weeks and included a full refurbishment, reliability work on both paper machines, the OCC facility and the power plant. It was completed in October. Source
- Extended outages at acquired mills: Extended outages at both acquired mills after closing lowered mill production and raised maintenance expense during September. Source
- Riverville outages improve reliability: Riverville received five-day outages on both paper machines to improve reliability and up-time, with benefits already seen, according to management. Source
Capital and cash
- Capital spending rose to $192.1 million: Third-quarter capital spending was $192.1 million against $146.7 million. Nine-month spending was $509.9 million against $468.4 million. Source
- Cash balance declined to $806.4 million: Cash, cash equivalents and marketable debt securities were $806.4 million, down from $841.3 million a year earlier and $955.9 million at the end of the second quarter. Source
- Diluted share count little changed: Diluted weighted average shares outstanding were 89.7 million, against 89.5 million a year earlier. Source
Fourth-quarter expectations
- Fourth-quarter EPS guided to $2.40: Management expects fourth-quarter EPS of $2.40 excluding special items, reflecting the Massillon outage, seasonal volume and mix, and a full quarter of acquired operations. Source
- Massillon outage continues into October: The Massillon outage continued into October, bringing lower production and higher maintenance expense, along with seasonally lower corrugated volume and mix. Source
- Full quarter at Riverville: Management expects a full quarter of improved operations at the Riverville mill in the fourth quarter. Source
Coming up, as management said on 23 October 2025
- Greif integration costs in fourth quarter: Acquisition and integration costs for Greif, and charges for corrugated facility closures, are expected in the fourth quarter; additional special items may arise. Source
- Acquired-operation inventory to be reduced: Management said it will manage production at the acquired operations to reach inventory levels suited to the larger integrated system. Source
- DeRidder outage in fourth quarter: Legacy containerboard production is expected slightly below third-quarter levels because of the DeRidder mill maintenance outage. Source
Figures management reported
| Figure | Reported |
|---|---|
| Containerboard production, legacy PCA mills Source | 1,255,000 tons |
| Containerboard production, acquired mills Source | 47,000 tons |
| Corrugated shipments per day, legacy PCA Source | down 2.7% |
| Corrugated shipments per day, including acquired business Source | up 3.7% |
| Containerboard inventory, legacy PCA system Source | 417,000 tons |
| Containerboard inventory, acquired facilities Source | 86,000 tons |
| Paper segment sales volume compared with third quarter 2024 Source | down 0.7% |
Risks management discussed
- Operational: Extended outages at both acquired mills lowered production and raised maintenance expense in September. Source
- Operational: The acquired facilities hold 86,000 tons of inventory that management plans to bring down to levels suited to the larger system. Source
- Demand: Cautious customer ordering continues to affect corrugated volume. Source
- External: Trade uncertainty has kept export containerboard sales relatively low. Source
- Financial: New debt financing and lower cash balances added to interest expense after the Greif acquisition. Source
Earlier plans management reported on
- Ahead: Excluding Greif and special items, third-quarter results came in $0.04 above the $2.80 guidance. Source
- Met: Management said the legacy system ended the quarter at targeted containerboard inventory levels. Source
- On track: Management said the acquired corrugated business achieved volumes and pricing consistent with expectations. Source
- Not stated: Management said the Riverville work has already started to show benefits in performance. Source
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